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nathanscribe
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/27/2009 :  17:07:21  Show Profile  Visit nathanscribe's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Apologies if there's an answer to this question already buried in the cupboard somwhere, but I was wondering what the circuit differences were between the original (A & B) quad op-amp OD-1, and the dual op-amp versions.

This schematic shows the 4558 version:

http://www.godiksennet.com/images/sch/OD1PG2.JPG

This thread mentions something that makes me think the buffers were op-amp on the originals:

http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3070

There's also a couple of pics of two OD-1s on page 2 of the internals thread:

http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4147&whichpage=2

Without tracing the circuit from those photos (and I don't have an OD-1 to open up), does anybody know if my guess is right?

verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
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Posted - 05/27/2009 :  17:58:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know about circuit differences, but this inspired me to compare the models. So I just A/B'd two of my OD-1s for the first time: #7900 with the Raytheon, and #9200 with the 4558. There's actually a quite noticeable difference between the two, but it might be chalked up to component drift or other variances..

#7900 was much thinner sounding, to my ears more like a piercing, loud Plexi (although I've only played a few plexis in my life)

#9200 had a thicker tone, but ended up sounding much more nasal. I sounded like some kind of low-mid freq. being boosted. It was also nice but I preferred the clarity in the older pedal.

I have another with the NEC chip, but I'll save that test for another day (maybe for a day when I can record the differences).

@nathanscribe: Hope somebody can shine a light on your inquiry!!
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 05/27/2009 :  18:09:07  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi nathanscribe

Yes the other two op-amps were used as input & output stages.

Please check your PM.

Regards Dr. Bob
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nathanscribe
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/27/2009 :  19:55:41  Show Profile  Visit nathanscribe's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for clearing that up, Dr Bob!



Interesting to see how early they changed the design - at least 1980.
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 05/27/2009 :  20:18:57  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The 3403 is used in the PH-1 as well (and probably others). My guess is that they bought a container full of the 3403 chips cheap from Raytheon and when they ran out changed the design.
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