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jaymzHal
Silver Member
United Kingdom
297 Posts |
 Posted - 03/31/2008 : 00:34:08
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| What do people think of these two? any users? my current compressor is a cs-3 but I'm not particular taken with it, nor am I that fond of my ds-1. My local music store has both MXR pedals for a reasonable price and I'm thinking of trading in the boss pedals. Any thoughts? |
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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
837 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2008 : 00:37:30
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i like both.
the distortion+ is very generic sounding. MIJ DS-1's sound better imo, but i like the D+ better than the MIT DS-1's. the seeing eye mod costs like $3.50 in parts and requires no drilling if you don't swap out the main LED or drill a toggle switch for SEM and ultra.
the dyna comp i do like more than CS-3's. retains more original tone without the nightmarish dialing in of CS-3's.
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bosshog
Silver Member
Canada
493 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2008 : 02:36:20
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Buy the Dyna Comp and throw your CS-3 into a deep lake. Hopefully, your
Dyna Comp will be the better vintage one... |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2008 : 11:31:58
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you guys bashin' the poor ol' CS-3 again..... ..i don't think it's the worst....but i use mine more as a clean booster than for compression and what some other people on the forum have noticed is that it can shine with a valve amp..... |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2008 : 12:17:37
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Back in the early 80�s I had an SD-1 and traded it for an MXR Distortion +, I liked the MXR a lot better and I suppose I still do, it is a very good overdrive/distortion pedal.
As for the Dyna Comp, I used a friend of mines many times back then, I liked it a lot and I think CS-2 is quite close to that one, and CS-2 is my favourite compressor.
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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
837 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2008 : 16:26:28
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heh.
i'm not bashin the CS-3's sound, just bashin that it takes 45 minutes of minor tweaking to get a rock solid tone from it.
too many options, too easy to f it up, not easy enough to dial it in. |
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timbo
Silver Member
Australia
252 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2008 : 16:09:21
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hey guys, its been a long time since ive been on here seeing that ive moved to the otherside of the world!
heres my 2 cents worth ont he mxr d+,
great! its not really a distortion pedal, more of an overdrive. i use mine all the time to give my amp that "egde". i normally run the ouput flat out and have the distortion at 12 or 3 o'clock. mine is the an 80 or 01 model, the first one with the led. so to sum it up, its reallt a overdrive booster pedal, great for adding plenty of dirt, but if you wind down the distortion, you get more bass and a great blues sound. |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2008 : 16:18:28
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Hi timbo
Great to see that you're back...
London?
You should try to catch up with Bossarea before heading back home.
Regards Dr. Bob |
Edited by - Dr. Bob on 04/01/2008 16:18:59 |
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jaymzHal
Silver Member
United Kingdom
297 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2008 : 23:50:47
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| Thanks for all the great replies, I kind of wanted a tone-base overdrive/distortion and something to boost it with, and since everyone seems to think the distortion + is best used for a booster perhaps it's not the right combination for me. I run through a fender pro junior which is just volume and tone single channel combo and want something for a passable crunch channel with something else for a lead boost, but I don't think they will satisfy. I don't like the ds-1 enough by itself, and the cs-3 makes everything a bit too dark unless you glue the dials in place (I'm in agreement with Zentropa there!). Perhaps an all in one unit would be better? any suggestions? |
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jaymzHal
Silver Member
United Kingdom
297 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2008 : 23:53:11
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
you guys bashin' the poor ol' CS-3 again.......i don't think it's the worst....but i use mine more as a clean booster than for compression and what some other people on the forum have noticed is that it can shine with a valve amp.....
How do you normally dial in your cs-3 franzoni? also, If I remember correctly, don't you have a seymour duncan twin tube? do you use them together/ would you recommend it? |
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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
837 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2008 : 00:01:32
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just say no to all in one units :P
you may want to bring your amp down to the store and plug the MXR into it. i think it has a bit more grit to it than just a boost, but whether or not it's the crunch sound you want is up in the air.
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jaymzHal
Silver Member
United Kingdom
297 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2008 : 01:02:19
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| I mean overdrive/booster combo like a carl martin plexi or something, maybe the boss sd-2 :P But of course you are right, I won't know until I try. unfortunately bringing the amp with me is not really an option as I lack a car (poor student!) and the shop is a bit of a trek away. However, they do have a few fender valve combos, so I daresay they won't sound too dissimilar. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2008 : 10:11:07
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Originally posted by jaymzHal
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
you guys bashin' the poor ol' CS-3 again.......i don't think it's the worst....but i use mine more as a clean booster than for compression and what some other people on the forum have noticed is that it can shine with a valve amp.....
How do you normally dial in your cs-3 franzoni? also, If I remember correctly, don't you have a seymour duncan twin tube? do you use them together/ would you recommend it?
My settings on the CS-3 going clockwise are..
Level......3 0'clock
Tone...... 1 0'clock
Attack....up full
Effect... 10 0'clock
I do use it with the twin tube on the crunch channel for lead as well or for clean lead solos..sometimes i use it with the duncans lead channel but to be honest the lead channel on the twin tube has plenty of sustain as it is....i don't need a very heavy distortion for rythmn and the bits i do need i can get by with the twin tube although the lead channel is maybe a bit dark for some..it depends on what style of music your going for...i normally use the crunch channel for a dirty blues type of thing..a bit like sir keef of stones fame....i suppose i'm using the CS-3 for a slight treble boost with a bit of compression..i know where people are coming from when they don't think it's the best out there...all i'm saying is it's not the worst either..or it could be that i've just got used to it(10 years+ on my pedalboard)...if you think a valve distortion is the way to go,check out the Blackstar pedals made in the U.K by ex Marshall employees they look very good......hope this helps.. and i don't know if this is any use to you....the SD twin tube and the Blackstar pedals use the valves in full power mode as in a real amp rather than in starvation mode like some other makes....valves get natural compression as well if they are starting to overdrive... could it be that with a small amp like the pro junior tht maybe you have some natural compression going on and are adding too much with the CS-3 if the effect level is up too much....i use a 15 watt selmer stadium on some gigs and i know that this amp only need a hint of compression as it's a very warm sustainy amp already... probably something to do with the valve rectifer in it..... |
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jaymzHal
Silver Member
United Kingdom
297 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2008 : 18:30:56
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Originally posted by zentropa
i like both.
the distortion+ is very generic sounding. MIJ DS-1's sound better imo, but i like the D+ better than the MIT DS-1's. the seeing eye mod costs like $3.50 in parts and requires no drilling if you don't swap out the main LED or drill a toggle switch for SEM and ultra.
the dyna comp i do like more than CS-3's. retains more original tone without the nightmarish dialing in of CS-3's.
I might look into the SEM, how difficult is it to do (without drilling preferably)? |
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jaymzHal
Silver Member
United Kingdom
297 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2008 : 18:40:01
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
My settings on the CS-3 going clockwise are..
Level......3 0'clock
Tone...... 1 0'clock
Attack....up full
Effect... 10 0'clock
I do use it with the twin tube on the crunch channel for lead as well or for clean lead solos..sometimes i use it with the duncans lead channel but to be honest the lead channel on the twin tube has plenty of sustain as it is....i don't need a very heavy distortion for rythmn and the bits i do need i can get by with the twin tube although the lead channel is maybe a bit dark for some..it depends on what style of music your going for...i normally use the crunch channel for a dirty blues type of thing..a bit like sir keef of stones fame....i suppose i'm using the CS-3 for a slight treble boost with a bit of compression..i know where people are coming from when they don't think it's the best out there...all i'm saying is it's not the worst either..or it could be that i've just got used to it(10 years+ on my pedalboard)...if you think a valve distortion is the way to go,check out the Blackstar pedals made in the U.K by ex Marshall employees they look very good......hope this helps.. and i don't know if this is any use to you....the SD twin tube and the Blackstar pedals use the valves in full power mode as in a real amp rather than in starvation mode like some other makes....valves get natural compression as well if they are starting to overdrive... could it be that with a small amp like the pro junior tht maybe you have some natural compression going on and are adding too much with the CS-3 if the effect level is up too much....i use a 15 watt selmer stadium on some gigs and i know that this amp only need a hint of compression as it's a very warm sustainy amp already... probably something to do with the valve rectifer in it.....
Thanks, I will definitely try that out with the cs-3 when I'm next near it (home from university (and my pedalboard!) at the moment). I have heard of blackstar and they look interesting, It's a shame I don't know anywhere that stocks them because they are a bit on the steep side to buy and not like. I am aware of the way some valves are run in starvation and I think I'd rather have something running off the mains. Generally I don't like it too metal, which is why I think a the twin tube might be my cup of tea. My only concern is if the price is too high I might as well sell the pro junior and spend the money I would spend on a new pedal to get a two channel amp, but I quite like the pro junior, as far as my first foray into valve amps goes. |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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MXR Distortion + and Dyna-comp.
