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timbo
Silver Member
Australia
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 Posted - 06/14/2009 : 03:24:44
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verivorax
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 06/14/2009 : 06:26:56
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| The Fender/Boss collaborations are dropping in price here.. I think there's a lot of unsold stock. |
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DarrinPA
Silver Member
USA
221 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2009 : 06:51:07
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I haven't been around in awhile, is this the only new pedal that Boss has put out recently? The last new thing from Boss that I remember was that oversized tuner. 
Anyways, I am in need of a Reverb pedal but I don't think that this new pedal appeals to me. I've used the RV-3 pedal before and liked it, unless somebody has a really good reason to buy this new thing; I'll just go with the RV-3. |
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Shermock
Bronze Member
Sweden
61 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2009 : 09:13:21
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Anyone tried the Marshall RF-1 Reflector?
Even got a reverse mode...
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hateandwar
Gold Member
Australia
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Posted - 06/14/2009 : 11:29:15
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 06/14/2009 : 14:10:53
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Originally posted by timbo
meh, it aint got shit on my rv-2!
Hi timbo
I had a really strong feeling that you were going to say that.
I know how much you have come to appreciate your recently acquired RV-2.
Regards Dr. Bob
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kipper15
Copper Member
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2009 : 19:40:37
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Before everybody slates this new pedal, and for that matter everything and anything with the word "COSM" written on it....
I own the FBM-1 and FDR-1 pedals and I think they're great. You have to spend time with these pedals folks, and they sound best when put through a clean tube amp. I own a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and I thoroughly enjoy using these pedals with it, in fact I've used my ME-50 a lot less in the last 6 months since I acquired the Legend series pedals.
I have read a lot of negative reviews of these pedals, then I read that people have put them through crappy 15w SS practise amps or high-gain amps. These pedals really do need clean tube amps to sound their best.
Also...what is it that people have against COSM? Geez, we can't all afford to buy "the real thing" and neither is it practical. Give Roland/BOSS a break all you naysayers, the technology is awesome. Sure I'd love a REAL Bassman and a REAL Deluxe Reverb but I don't have the money or the space for those things.
We should welcome technology such as COSM, and I wish more people would - instead of taking a snobby purist "gotta be the real thing" attitude. Well here's news for those naysayers out there: it's not 1969 it's 2009. Things have moved on and I wish people would embrace the technology that we have to choose from instead of slating it in a negative and undeserving way. There are people here slagging off this new FRV-1 pedal who have never even heard it!
Which leads me nicely to...
I saw this pedal demo'd at the London International Music Show here in the UK over the weekend. In fact the Roland guy who showed it to me did a private demo just for me and I thought it sounded brilliant. Interesting that he had the FRV-1 pedal first, followed by the FDR-1 and then the FBM-1 last. The surf stuff he was playing with the reverb + Bassman pedals switched on sounded totally awesome.
As a sidenote the Roland/BOSS stand was, IMHO, by far the best stand at the LIMS show this year (I thought the same last year too). Due to the sheer size of the stand, there was a vast range of Roland and BOSS equipment you could play, the staff were - as always - very friendly and there were competitions running every day where you could win this pedal and, among other things, a GT-10. Even my wife, who loves music but whose interest in actually playing it is a passing one at best and really only because of me, said she thought the Roland/BOSS stand - and the staff working on it - was the best thing about the entire exhibition area.
I'll be getting this pedal for sure. If you have the other two in the series, I'd say it's a no-brainer! And even if you don't, check it out for yourself before you judge it (and certainly I would never judge any piece of kit based on a youtube video!).
Peace!
   
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Frederick
Copper Member
Belgium
46 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2009 : 21:14:31
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Couldn't agree with you more, Kipper15. I have the RT-20 (which is also a COSM-pedal) and it sounds terrific! The difference in tone with the actual simulated device cannot - for me at least - justify the acquisition of the real thing (which is in all cases much more expensive and much more space-consuming).
Thanks for the info about the demo of the FRV-1 you got! Just the info I need
Strange, however, that he should have put the FRV-1 first?! I always thought reverb should come very last in the chain (?) |
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Shermock
Bronze Member
Sweden
61 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2009 : 21:41:54
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Originally posted by Frederick
Couldn't agree with you more, Kipper15. I have the RT-20 (which is also a COSM-pedal) and it sounds terrific! The difference in tone with the actual simulated device cannot - for me at least - justify the acquisition of the real thing (which is in all cases much more expensive and much more space-consuming).
Thanks for the info about the demo of the FRV-1 you got! Just the info I need
Strange, however, that he should have put the FRV-1 first?! I always thought reverb should come very last in the chain (?)
In the old days, if you wanted to hook up a reverbtank to a Bassman amp it would have been like that. The Bassman doesnt have any loop or reverb in it. Or am i wrong?
Im sure the FRV-1 must be good for surf sound, cant wait for it. |
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kipper15
Copper Member
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2009 : 21:56:32
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Originally posted by Frederick
Couldn't agree with you more, Kipper15. I have the RT-20 (which is also a COSM-pedal) and it sounds terrific! The difference in tone with the actual simulated device cannot - for me at least - justify the acquisition of the real thing (which is in all cases much more expensive and much more space-consuming).
Thanks for the info about the demo of the FRV-1 you got! Just the info I need
Strange, however, that he should have put the FRV-1 first?! I always thought reverb should come very last in the chain (?)
I will be getting my hands on this pedal as soon as it becomes available, that's for sure.
That is of course unless I won one at the LIMS event over the weekend in one of the Roland/BOSS competitions but I don't know if I'll be that lucky!
The surf sound the Roland demo guy was getting with this was indeed superb, when combined with the bassman pedal. I had your thoughts about the pedal order but now I think of it, it actually makes sense because that's how an original Fender spring reverb unit would have been connected (as per Shermock's comment). |
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kipper15
Copper Member
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2009 : 21:59:06
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Originally posted by Shermock
In the old days, if you wanted to hook up a reverbtank to a Bassman amp it would have been like that. The Bassman doesnt have any loop or reverb in it. Or am i wrong?
Im sure the FRV-1 must be good for surf sound, cant wait for it.
You are correct - a Bassman has no loop or any reverb on-board. And the FBM-1 pedal from BOSS is accurate in that sense too. The combination of the FBM-1 and the FRV-1 sounded awesome to my ears...if you like surf guitar, as I do, you will love it! |
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exodia333
Silver Member
USA
273 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2009 : 22:25:47
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Originally posted by kipper15
it's not 1969 it's 2009. Things have moved on and I wish people would embrace the technology that we have to choose from instead of slating it in a negative and undeserving way.
Yes things have moved on but I havent |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 01:47:30
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 03:33:17
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 10:32:44
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The only point i was making regarding the demo was when the deluxe reverb pedal with the vibrato was introduced..for a professional demo from Boss it just didn't sound good IMHO....
regarding the analogue vs digital thing....
I use an Line 6 Pod XT pro in my rig as a extra effects unit ..no amp sims because they can't recreate a real amp no matter how hard they try...i use it for reverb/delay (and mostly for the built in switchable,stereo effects loop)going in the front end of the amp just the same way an old fender reverb would of been used... i have an old analogue leslie simulator in the effects loop...why..? because no digital sim i've ever heard can beat it apart for the real thing...i use a couple of patches for flanger and phaser but having owned/borrowed some the real pedals over the years these a decent recreation and save valuable space on my pedalboard for effect pedals i would only use once in a blue moon,but still they lack the richness of the real thing...the same reason i keep the CE-2 on my main 'board brfore the pod for chorus duties..the CE-1 sim in the pod can't come close...
I'm not knocking digital...i use it myself for certain things and for recreating reverb and delays i think it's great ( i also use clean tube/valve amps in stereo at the end..) but i know what my ears tell me and for modulation effects and amp simulators i don't think Boss,Line 6 etc are quite there yet...... |
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New Pedal Announced: FRV-1
