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Ollie
Gold Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 01/30/2010 : 13:11:13
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My Blackstar pedal and i believe TC Electronic are buffered, but are meant to be good bypassed.
The blackstar has what they call 'a high integrity buffered bypass'. I don't hear any tone loss, and like they say, buffering your signal is useful. But then my Digitech whammy has a frankly shite bypass, and I'm looking to get a bypass looper for it.
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2010 : 17:07:09
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I have one of those Morley dual bass wahs and it has what Morley calls a "clear tone buffer circuit" which adds a little high end sparkle to the bypassed signal.
When my previous band disbanded and I didn't have a need for the wah anymore with my new band I took it off the board, but I noticed my sound being a lot duller, cause I'd never played without that pedal in the signal for years and I was so used to hearing that cleartone buffer circuit sparkle thingy.
That took some time for me to adjust and find a similar tone on my amp.
Having that said, I wasn't aware that my CS-3 cut some low end from my tone, I had it always on and simply adjusted eq on my amp accordingly.
Until a soundman pointed it out to me during some recordings.
"Damn, you're right, I never noticed that before"  |
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skugga
Copper Member
Australia
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Posted - 02/01/2010 : 04:41:06
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Originally posted by Laurie
All humour aside, I'm not sure anyone has ever done an "audit" of the buffer quality. I'd be intrerested to hear comments from folks who have experience with "good" and "bad" buffers in Boss pedals.
When I picked up a TU-3 a few months ago I sat down and did exactly that with my limited collection of pedals. Mainly to see if the 3 had the tonesucker reputation the TU-2 gets in some quarters.
A few hours with a 5 way TBP looper was quite enlightening. I didn't find any buffers which were 100% transparent but there was a wide variation in quality across all of the pedals.
Much in line with what Pete Cornish says there's a marked difference between no buffer and one buffer. After that It's like any audio chain though, the shorter the better.
Random observations:
- My crybaby is now on a shelf until it gets a TBP mod, serious tone killer.
- TU-3 - Now always my chain, really clear buffer with a ever so slight treble boost (which I like)
- BD-2 (newish, '09) - fairly transparent
- DS-1 (new, '09) - passable but average buffers on its own but you start to notice it in longer chains
- MT-2 (old, '96) - poor (not as bad as the Crybaby)
- CH-1 (analogue, '92) - fairly good
- DC-3 - good
- Daphone 'Analogue' Delay - bought on a whim really cheap....and it really shows, total shite
I didn't really notice any pattern with age versus quality in either direction. It probably comes down to whatever pricepoint Boss are trying to hit at that particular time.
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Rich_S
Silver Member
USA
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Posted - 02/03/2010 : 18:02:47
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| I keep meaning to build myself a true-bypass looper for the workshop. Just a DPDT toggle switch or two, and some jacks. It would make evaluating pedals for tone suck so much easier. |
Edited by - Rich_S on 02/03/2010 18:03:12 |
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What makes a better buffer?
