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kpd78
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 Posted - 01/05/2010 : 18:38:12
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Originally posted by aaronharmonThat is the advantage to a limited run. only make 1000 and let the market sort itself out.
but would Boss/Roland be confident of selling 1000 units?
(guys on specialist effects forums and ebay pedal collectors make up only a small section of the pedal market.)
and would it be worth it for Boss/Roland with the R&D and marketing costs etc. making a limited run will also be more expensive to manufacture so the retail price would be higher.
so for example, if an SG-1 special edition was made, it would probably cost around the same as (OR more likely more than) a PS-5 or RC-2 - which sell for �140-�150 in the UK...
there's no way i'd buy a pedal for that kind of money which has such limited use...
and for what it's worth, i LIKE the SG-1. |
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aaronharmon
Silver Member
USA
271 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2010 : 20:12:59
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Originally posted by kpd78
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Originally posted by aaronharmonThat is the advantage to a limited run. only make 1000 and let the market sort itself out.
but would Boss/Roland be confident of selling 1000 units?
(guys on specialist effects forums and ebay pedal collectors make up only a small section of the pedal market.)
and would it be worth it for Boss/Roland with the R&D and marketing costs etc. making a limited run will also be more expensive to manufacture so the retail price would be higher.
so for example, if an SG-1 special edition was made, it would probably cost around the same as (OR more likely more than) a PS-5 or RC-2 - which sell for �140-�150 in the UK...
there's no way i'd buy a pedal for that kind of money which has such limited use...
and for what it's worth, i LIKE the SG-1.
I don't know the ins and outs of Roland's manufacturing costs. It may very well be prohibitive. Their highest chance for success would be with something like the DM-3. Don't you think? It's very relevant, versatile, there is a delay on most pedal boards, and analogues are popular now. |
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Mansun
Gold Member
Spain
564 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 18:06:34
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I don't think reissuing pedals is a good idea for Boss because people who are after vintage effects are mainly collectors, and there's nothing special in buying a reissued pedal unless it was a very limited release, which would make it a very expensive pedal to make.
That would be the case for rare pedals, I mean, not for gems like Ibanez's TS808 that are really useful for those who are looking for a sound, rather than a beautiful and rare stompbox like the VB-2 i.e. |
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Miky
Silver Member
Czech Republic
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Posted - 01/06/2010 : 20:16:14
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Originally posted by Mansun
I don't think reissuing pedals is a good idea for Boss because people who are after vintage effects are mainly collectors, and there's nothing special in buying a reissued pedal unless it was a very limited release, which would make it a very expensive pedal to make.
That would be the case for rare pedals, I mean, not for gems like Ibanez's TS808 that are really useful for those who are looking for a sound, rather than a beautiful and rare stompbox like the VB-2 i.e.
Yet I believe there are some discontinued pedals that were very good and are becoming pricey and hard to get.
Analog delay is a very good example of what boss line is currently missing. And surely other analog effects like chorus and any other would be appreciated by many players (perhaps not so much by collectors). |
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aaronharmon
Silver Member
USA
271 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 20:24:52
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Originally posted by Mansun
I don't think reissuing pedals is a good idea for Boss because people who are after vintage effects are mainly collectors, and there's nothing special in buying a reissued pedal unless it was a very limited release, which would make it a very expensive pedal to make.
That would be the case for rare pedals, I mean, not for gems like Ibanez's TS808 that are really useful for those who are looking for a sound, rather than a beautiful and rare stompbox like the VB-2 i.e.
Fine, don't reissue. Release a DM-5, an SG-2 and so on. Just no cosm please. I want the real deal. |
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red_riviera
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
111 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2010 : 10:17:29
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Hoping for:
SL-2 Slicer, RE-2 Space Echo, RC-30 Stereo Looper, RV-20 Stereo Reverb, PS-20 Harmoniser/Pitchshifter, OG-20 Octave Generator (EHX HOG and POG killer!)
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2010 : 13:13:00
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Originally posted by Dr. Bob
Hi Guys
Could DasBeef's post:
"FBM-1 Fender '59 Bassman" - sale.
http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=1&TOPIC_ID=8758#75061
Be an indication of changes & things to come, or just a strange coincidence?
Regards Dr. Bob 
I would go with changes, either the pedal not selling or something new to come out |
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aaronharmon
Silver Member
USA
271 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2010 : 22:28:57
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Gitarr-slusken
Copper Member
Sweden
36 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2010 : 23:28:41
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Is NAMM like a big Boss market or something, were you
can se all the Boss pedals ever made? |
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Bruno
Copper Member
France
40 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2010 : 23:57:16
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| I would GAS if Boss could release a newer version of the DD20 on steroids, with the ability to connect an expression pedal to control one or several parameters! (and I guess many musicians would be as interested as I for this kind of feature) |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2010 : 00:18:07
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Originally posted by aaronharmon
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Originally posted by Brutalitarian Supremacy
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Originally posted by hateandwar
A compact RE-20 would be nice. I have/use one and I never use the tap tempo footswitch. So cutting it in half would be lovley 
I still don't see why they don't reissue all their classic sort after pedals. The SP-1, SG-1, VB-2, DM-2, DC-2, OD-1,PH-1, CE-2 and CE-1 (just for me  )...ect.
Every other company that had anything decent back in the day has reissued it, but not boss. Hmmm
...I remember reading somewhere that Boss refuses to "reissue" pedals..."we look to the future instead of staying in the past"...they figure if they made it 20-30 yrs ago, they can do it better now. right?...so far not so good...DS-1 anybody??????
Roland's duty is to the stock holders. It would be silly to unilaterally refuse anything so potentially profitable. If I ever owned stock in a company that made a statement like that, I would be writing an angry letter to the board of directors.
I hope that they realize that the trend is to revisit tried and true designs. It is one thing to say they want to move forward. The trick is to move forward while honoring and paying homage to your past.
I do not think that modeling is the future of all effects. I do think that is going to be a permanent fixture in the guitar scene moving forward, but I believe it will co-exist with older technology.
Not to start a battle or go off topic but they are in the business to make money, not to fill your tonal dreams. I say own a stock, and see, wait till you get that dividend check at the end of each quarter for doing nothing but sitting on your rear.Then tell me Roland sell more units and make me more profit, so i can sit on my rear all day and play guitar or have s job and work ,and hope that they will make another pedal for people on a forum to bitch about |
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aaronharmon
Silver Member
USA
271 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2010 : 00:21:01
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Originally posted by Gitarr-slusken
Is NAMM like a big Boss market or something, were you
can se all the Boss pedals ever made?
NAMM is an industry trade show for manufactures to introduce there new products to the press, dealers, ect. Every manufacturer will be there. It is the equivalent of the Detroit Auto Show, E3, CES, etc. |
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member
United Kingdom
400 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2010 : 00:21:05
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Originally posted by red_riviera
Hoping for:
...OG-20 Octave Generator (EHX HOG and POG killer!)...
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2010 : 00:21:34
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Originally posted by Gitarr-slusken
Is NAMM like a big Boss market or something, were you
can se all the Boss pedals ever made?
Hi Gitarr-slusken
Here is the main link for NAMM
http://www.namm.org/
Here is the Wiki link that describes this some more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMM
=== Exract/s ===
The NAMM Show is one of the largest music product trade shows in the world.
The acronym NAMM originally stood for the National Association of Music Merchants, but has evolved from a national entity representing the interests of music products retailers to an international association including both commercial, retail members and affiliates. Therefore, the long form of the name is no longer used, and it is simply known as NAMM, the International Music Products Association.
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Regards Dr. Bob |
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